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**Old Guy** · February 7th, 2012, 07:27 PM

Altec Lansing horn driver 3 pack | eBay

Bet on one thing- an audio dealer with 800+ feedbacks is NOT selling them untested. A C-note says all 3 are blown. Still, may go reasonable.

**bowtie427ss** · February 7th, 2012, 08:42 PM

Ironically, or not, those are painted the same color as an 815 cabinet that was sold out of that general region some time ago.

FWIW, i don't dispute your suspicions OG. But, i'm also aware that with the whole ebay/paypal field being slanted so heavily in favor of the buyer the seller may just be trying to avoid having a refund/dispute scenario. As you can clearly see everywhere, ethics are no longer part of our socio-economic system.

**Altec Best** · February 7th, 2012, 09:37 PM

If I'm seeing those numbers right look like they are all from the same lot. 288C's me thinks...

**voice of the theater** · February 7th, 2012, 09:53 PM

Even if the 288's are blown, they may go fairly cheap (as OG mentioned) and still be worth grabbing. BTW, AB, regarding your new signature--nice (close) game Sunday. Glad to see that it wasn't a Superbowl blowout, and as a New York State native, I'm not too unhappy about the outcome!

**BoydB** · February 7th, 2012, 10:06 PM

Just below the title of the auction the seller says... "For parts or Not Working".

That's being pretty upfront in my book, so why all the ethical questions regarding the seller?

**Altec Best** · February 7th, 2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by voice of the theater

and as a New York State native, I'm not too unhappy about the outcome!

Me neither,me Neither ! Was a good game.Got to like Eli's bringing the team back in the fourth quarter 8 times this season.Super Bowl was no exception.

On the 288's they look to be later model 288C's.I have both early and later models the only difference on the outside of driver is the name on the rear cover is different and the seal is different.Early ones had a rope thread seal and the latter had a rubber O-ring seal. Here is an example of an early and late.

First is early second pic is the latter production runs.

**Audio_by_Goodwill** · February 7th, 2012, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by BoydB

Just below the title of the auction the seller says... "For parts or Not Working".

That's being pretty upfront in my book, so why all the ethical questions regarding the seller?

They're labeled as untested. Something as simple to test as a driver isn't likely going to go untested by an audio dealer. They probably don't work, or have had the diaphragms removed. "Untested" gives the impression that it's unknown and could be fine, and therefore could get a higher price if someone's willing to take the bait and gamble. Sure the buyer chooses to gamble, but the game shouldn't be set against him. If I sell something as being untested, it will be untested. Testing and finding a non-functioning item and calling it untested to provide deniabilty is dishonest.

**BoydB** · February 7th, 2012, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Audio_by_Goodwill

They're labeled as untested. Something as simple to test as a driver isn't likely going to go untested by an audio dealer. They probably don't work, or have had the diaphragms removed. "Untested" gives the impression that it's unknown and could be fine, and therefore could get a higher price if someone's willing to take the bait and gamble. Sure the buyer chooses to gamble, but the game shouldn't be set against him. If I sell something as being untested, it will be untested. Testing and finding a non-functioning item and calling it untested to provide deniabilty is dishonest.

So what if the seller bought them with the knowledge they were blown drivers? I'd list them as "for parts, not working", and I'd not have a need to test them myself if they were known to be blown. With the info the seller has provided anyone buying them expecting them to work is not reading properly.

**analog addict** · February 8th, 2012, 12:01 AM

'Phragms and a remag at GPA $100 each. So what? I'm curious to see what they go for. If they were mine, I'd have them sent directly to Bill H....

**Audio_by_Goodwill** · February 8th, 2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by BoydB

So what if the seller bought them with the knowledge they were blown drivers? I'd list them as "for parts, not working", and I'd not have a need to test them myself if they were known to be blown. With the info the seller has provided anyone buying them expecting them to work is not reading properly.

If they were purchased knowing they were blown then he should say they're blown, not untested. As I tried to convey before "untested" leaves the possibility open that they're fine. If it's known that they are not fine, that's dishonest.

As far as not reading properly......... an animal should always watch for a trap/danger, but it can't fall into a trap that's not there.